1Ti 6:20 O Timothy, keep that which is committed to thy trust, avoiding profane [and] vain babblings, and oppositions of science falsely so called: :21 Which some professing have erred concerning the faith. Grace [be] with thee. Amen.

 

 

 

Is a geocentric universe large or "small"?

Dr. Neville Thomas Jones, Ph.D.   Copyright © 2005 Dr. N.T. Jones.

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A scientist may or may not believe in God. That is a personal choice. Either way, they should consider evidence from within their particular discipline in a rational manner, in order to find an idea that best fits that data. An individual's beliefs will, however, influence the type of questions that might be asked from the outset.

If you are going to approach this whole area, as I have, primarily from the perspective and instruction contained in the Hebrew Scriptures, then you have to address the question, "What would be God's purpose in creating a 'Star Trek'-like universe, with His creatures inhabiting what would to Him appear as a tiny speck constantly moving around in that universe?" Moreover, why would He refer to such a shifting grain of sand as His "footstool" (Isaiah 66:1)? To try and wriggle out of contemplating this highly significant problem by claiming that a 'Star Trek'-like universe shows us the power and majesty of the Creator cannot be supported in any serious way, because Adam was designed to gaze upon the starry heavens with his eyes, not with the ESO's 4x 8.2-m VLT built on a plateau at 5-km elevation in Chile.

Likewise, trying to claim impunity by saying that, "it is not for us to question Almighty God in any way," is clearly not defensible from a Scriptural perspective (Come now, and let us reason together, saith the LORD ...  Isaiah 1:18, KJV). On the contrary, we are expected to think and reason: They have not known nor understood: for he hath shut their eyes, that they cannot see; [and] their hearts, that they cannot understand.  And none considereth in his heart, neither [is there] knowledge nor understanding to say, I have burned part of it in the fire; yea, also I have baked bread upon the coals thereof; I have roasted flesh, and eaten [it]: and shall I make the residue thereof an abomination? shall I fall down to the stock of a tree?   (Isaiah 44:18-19, KJV).

We are both justified and required, in the present circumstances of being indoctrinated with atheistic garbage, to enquire as to what possible point God would have in creating the massive, dark, dangerous, void and inhospitable monster of a universe that our visual senses are regularly fed as though it were reality.

There would be no point at all, in my opinion, and it surely could not be claimed that such a grotesque thing, at least 20,000 light-years in radius, could rotate daily about the World. Esoteric arguments, based upon the strange 'physics' of Einstein's relativity, that try and prove that such a position is tenible within the same assumptions used to justify the heliocentric myth, are nothing more than philosophical games, and do not constitute real physics in the least. In particular, the mass-of-the-rest-of-the-universe argument used by Dr. Gerardus Bouw and others to maintain secular data interpretation within a geocentric framework (this is based on the work of Gerber, Lense and Thirring in the late nineteenth/early twentieth centuries) cannot be held correct against the anisotropic effect that the centre of the "Milky Way galaxy" would exert (see Fig. 1(a) of "Galactic road map" in the NASA section of this website).

Consider now the alternative:

Figure 1: Although the geocentric universe depicted here is considered "small," by conventional "wisdom," it is still massive when compared to our everyday surroundings. 

The cosmological model shown in Fig. 1 has, I believe, a beauty, purpose and design about it that confirms what we read in the Tenach. It is therefore one of the primary functions of this website to rewrite all of astrophysics and cosmology to support this rather radical change in mankind's "knowledge."

Summary

If the universe is indeed geocentric, then it has been designed and built that way. In this case, however, there seems to be absolutely no point to the universe being as massive, dark and hostile as we are constantly taught. It would make more sense if the universe were "small" (in comparison), and certainly there currently exist no insurmountable scientific reasons why this should not be the case.


 

Outer Space

Dr. Neville Thomas Jones, Ph.D.   Copyright © 2005 Dr. N.T. Jones.

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Black holes, worm holes, superstrings, branes, pulsars, quasars, dark matter, nebulae, galaxies and so forth. The universe appears to be a strange, hostile, cold and purposeless place. "Many and strange are the universes that drift like bubbles in the foam upon the River of Time." (Arthur Clarke, popular science fiction writer). As for the World (or Earth), let's consider what Prof. Carl Sagan (1934 - 1996) had to say: "As long as there have been humans we have searched for our place in the cosmos. Where are we? Who are we? We find that we live on an insignificant planet of a humdrum star lost in a galaxy tucked away in some forgotten corner of a universe in which there are far more galaxies than people." (Sagan, C., "A Gift for Vividness," Time, Oct. 20, 1980, p. 61.)

In Chapter 1 of Genesis, though, we are told something very different indeed. There we find a cosmos being created by God in six days, filled with purpose and order, beauty and design. There we find no mention of dangerous things like black holes. No mention of 'space-time continuums'. Not even a hint of 'multiverses' or aliens. "And God saw every thing that he had made, and, behold, it was very good. And the evening and the morning were the sixth day. Thus the heavens and the earth were finished, and all the host of them." (Gen 1:31 - 2:1, KJV.)

To discuss these mutually exclusive viewpoints, one thing needs to be made clear from the start. Given all the time, effort and money that goes into astronomical sciences, it is only natural to suppose that a great deal of factual knowledge about the universe has by now been accumulated. However, this assumption is false. All that science "knows" still comes from terrestrial observation, just as Sir Arthur Eddington pointed out in 1933, "There are no purely observational facts about the heavenly bodies. Astronomical measurements are, without exception, measurements of phenomena occurring in a terrestrial observatory or station; it is only by theory that they are translated into knowledge of a universe outside." (Eddington, "The Expanding Universe," CUP.) Clearly, then, we are constrained in our data collection activities by our essentially two-dimensional imaging, instrumental imperfections and lack of spatial mobility.

Since the 1960s it could be argued that the American government agency, NASA, has provided an enormous amount of information regarding outer space, but we investigate their increasingly outlandish claims (and the agency itself) in a separate section of this site.

The theories of astrophysics and cosmology, through which astronomical observations "are translated into knowledge of a universe outside," are like a tangled ball of wool, with each knot and kink having been added as a consequence of someone's attempt to fix and preserve the previously fixed ball. Our task is either to unravel the ball, or to throw the ball out and start again with new wool. The latter course of action is to be preferred.

A very common misconception, even amongst professional astronomers, is that telescopes provide us with a measure of distance. They do not. Exactly as with a microscope, the telescope is an optical instrument that simply provides an angular resolution greater than that of the human eye.

Consider, for instance, the following quotation taken from Rev. Alexander Hislop's scholarly book, "The Two Babylons," fourth edition, 1929: "There is this great difference between the works of men and the works of God, that the same minute and searching investigation, which displays the defects and imperfections of the one, brings out also the beauties of the other. ... If the microscope be brought to bear on the flowers of the field, ... instead of their beauty diminishing, new beauties and still more delicate, that have escaped the naked eye, are forthwith discovered."

We can see these intricacies through a microscope, not because the microscope is somehow looking 50-cm into the flower, but because it can resolve detail that our eye cannot. We see exactly the same thing as the microscope objective "sees," but we need the assistance of the microscope lenses, in conjunction with our own, to magnify and thereby resolve the detail.

The same is true of a telescope. That a telescope magnifies does not necessarily mean that the object being magnified is further away from the telescope. The telescope can be simply resolving a smaller, equidistant object. Just as with using a microscope to examine the detail of a flower, we can use a telescope to examine the detail and structure of a particular patch of the firmament. What we observe may not be things that are further and further away from us, but finer detail of the same thing.

There is thus no observational basis for claiming that the universe is billions of light-years in radius, apart from inconclusive interpretations of galactic redshift. We observe a rotating dome above our heads, and there is no reason why this should not, in actuality, be the case.

Summary

"Astronomical measurements are, without exception, measurements of phenomena occurring in a terrestrial observatory or station; it is only by theory that they are translated into knowledge of a universe outside." - Sir Arthur Eddington.

 


 

Star speeds are not a problem when the thickness of the universe is seen to be what

it really is, that is, LESS than half a light day thick ( eight billion mile radius.)

 

 

 

Introduction

WYSIWYG

Seasons/Declinations

Sky and Sat Viewer

Moon Tides, Phases, Eclipses

Experience Satellites/NASA

Fixed Earth

Scriptures

Distance and Observance

Universe

Acknowledgements

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